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E15 gasoline leaving trail of problems

Mohave Daily News -- A recent survey by AAA finds a plethora of problems with E15 gasoline. The new fuel blend, which comprises 15 percent ethanol and 85 percent gasoline, was approved by the Environmental Protection Agency earlier this year.

“As an advocate for the motoring public, AAA supports the development and use of alternative fuels,” said John Walter, director of automotive repair for AAA Arizona. “However, E15 is plagued with a variety of problems, from consumer confusion and the potential for voided warranties to potential vehicle damage.”

Consumer Confusion

According to a recent AAA survey, an overwhelming 95 percent of consumers have not heard of E15. In addition, nearly half (44 percent) said they did not know if the fuel was approved for use in their primary vehicle.

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Submitted Dec 03, 2012 By: skb69sa

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 5:41:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse EtOH never WILL be the answer either...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 5:56:48 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse EtOH has never been the answer.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,506 Points:539,895 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:50:09 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse No, don't blame E15 on Bush, don't mix the 2007 ethanol requirements with the new specific mandate on E15. In 2007 U.S. Congress passed rules to allow EPA to mandate more ethanol be mixed into our gasoline supply with higher levels of ethanol each year. EPA is allowed to suspense or lower the total amount of ethanol each year but on Nov.16 Even with the 2012 drought, Obama's EPA mandated more ethanol be mixed into our gas for 2013. Obama's EPA has approved use of E15 this year - 2012. Obama's USDA has approved our tax dollars being used to "grant" $30,000 to your neighborhood gas station to instal E15 Blender Pumpers
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,545 Points:747,070 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 8:36:15 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse e-anything needs to go away
gravityhurts Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,093 Points:937,505 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 7:53:31 AM Ignore gravityhurts Report Abuse Hate it!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,995 Points:2,345,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 3:10:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse E15 gasoline leaving trail of problems, Bad for gasoline engines and No Fuel from Food! Produce straight gasoline, use No additives and limit the EPA! We have enough problems with Sneeky as it is, we don't need anymore. Thanks to the Sheep that voted him back into office and not reasearching what he hasn't done the last four years! Are the sheep saying: I'll voted for him 'cause I like what he says and the way he talks. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:328,585 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 2:26:00 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Get that crap out of our gas!
tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,302 Points:1,462,810 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 2:11:50 AM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse This appears to be a collusion and not the result of good research :(
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,815 Points:641,300 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 1:08:14 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse Bad news for automobiles!
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,067 Points:1,970,965 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:21:22 AM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse And still, the LEGISLATIVE IDIOTS keep proposing this CRAP{!
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,971 Points:409,645 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:06:04 AM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse Messed up my lawn mower
Darwin00 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:830 Points:269,655 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:05:27 AM Ignore Darwin00 Report Abuse Just great!
Robert44 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,575 Points:1,219,065 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:05:20 AM Ignore Robert44 Report Abuse We need STOP burning our food for gasoline!!!
CarefreeVT Champion Author Burlington Posts:1,806 Points:258,055 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:05:10 AM Ignore CarefreeVT Report Abuse old news...
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:7,900 Points:1,775,185 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:04:25 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse That's correct toadNY, except that you need to thank BUSH, CHENEY and the GOP for the E15 requirement. The EPA is just following the law, as defined by the GOP.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,042 Points:1,513,150 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:58:03 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse More ethanol will get US lower gas milage! Thank you US government!
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,506 Points:539,895 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:56:57 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse Opps, more than $30,000.00 for one station - Indiana Prairie Farmer reports that one station in Iowa got almost $50,000.00 of our tax money to install two E15 blender pumps - "USDA Rural Development participated in the project by providing a $49,564 grant through its Rural Energy for America Program (REAP). The new fuel station has two fuel dispensers that give consumers a choice of higher ethanol blended fuels such as E15, E30 and E85" Not only has the EPA approved sale of E15 gas but USDA is "granting" (giving away) our tax money thru this REAP program so gas stations will install E15 blender pumps! Stop REAP!
RTTT Rookie Author Providence Posts:30 Points:668,700 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:55:24 PM Ignore RTTT Report Abuse Seems to me this bs was passed in 2007. AND Obama's no better for keeping it.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,140 Points:1,882,695 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:55:13 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse The EPA says it ain't so.
fullauto Champion Author Reading Posts:5,315 Points:1,471,090 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:53:19 PM Ignore fullauto Report Abuse extinction is best
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,799 Points:1,842,475 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:50:50 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Lets go to E0. Pure gasoline is best.
LCSTEELERBOB Champion Author Gary Posts:2,961 Points:720,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:50:31 PM Ignore LCSTEELERBOB Report Abuse lets just stop using it all together
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:2,265,640 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:50:10 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse E15 should never have been approved
rrs517 All-Star Author Colorado Posts:923 Points:343,730 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:49:18 PM Ignore rrs517 Report Abuse Another gift from your government who knows what is best for you!
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:871,990 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:48:01 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse The reason we are stuck with this is the EPA and their green agenda.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,699,625 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:47:17 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Not sure why we have stuck with this stuff.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,531,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:46:35 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse There is not a proven blend of any ethanol that anyone could call good! It is keeping repair shops for cars and trucks,boats,lawnmower and other small engines busy. And it also raises the price we pay for food. One of the worst products ever developed by man!
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,469 Points:1,710,860 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:44:47 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse a trail a mile long!!!
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,506 Points:539,895 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:43:35 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse I hope sawdust realizes that USDA is "granting" his tax dollars to gas stations to install E15 "blender" pumps. USDA is granting $30,000.00 to your neighborhood gas station to install E15 Blender Pumps. And if your neighborhood station puts in a single hose blender pump, you'll have to buy at least 4 gallons of E10 to make sure you don't get too much ethanol, that's another EPA mandate!
nwsynthetics Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,014 Points:345,675 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:41:40 PM Ignore nwsynthetics Report Abuse I agree. How about corn for the livestock,etc. Just end the ethanol crap.
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,564 Points:1,512,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:37:21 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse "Say it ain't so, Joe"
TTM77 Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,134 Points:1,211,780 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:34:31 PM Ignore TTM77 Report Abuse E15 is a shot in the foot. You shave a penny but cost you $20 to save that one freakin penny. STOP USING FOOD FOR VEHICLE FUEL.
sawdust1825 All-Star Author Illinois Posts:842 Points:436,655 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:32:22 PM Ignore sawdust1825 Report Abuse No E15 here yet. Hope it stays that way.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,066 Points:1,731,235 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:30:00 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse as expected
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,406 Points:2,908,760 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:24:32 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse It has a very negative affect on gas engines. Not what it is all hyped about. The best thing of all is DON'T USE IT!
Canucktree Champion Author Alberta Posts:4,891 Points:1,019,650 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:23:26 PM Ignore Canucktree Report Abuse Desiel!
mpg611 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,334 Points:569,095 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:19:49 PM Ignore mpg611 Report Abuse Dont use E15 gas.
PissedATthePump All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:507 Points:119,580 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:19:02 PM Ignore PissedATthePump Report Abuse If nobody buys this crap that will be the death of it.
GLCSHADOW Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,616 Points:1,886,435 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:18:15 PM Ignore GLCSHADOW Report Abuse Scrap it...
Tucker16 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:1,159 Points:543,180 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:17:39 PM Ignore Tucker16 Report Abuse Boourns.
Ply440GTX All-Star Author Texas Posts:949 Points:309,730 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:14:00 PM Ignore Ply440GTX Report Abuse Nice to see the EPA use strong-arm tactics to force this sh*t down the consumers fuel tank... I don't even know of ANY flex fuel vehicle owners that use E85! They "try" it and never go back...
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,416 Points:422,900 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:12:00 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Oh my!
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,300 Points:597,690 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:10:37 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse and this doesn't begin to cover other gas power tools. i still think the epa should be abolished. the regulations they have submitted for e15 are idiotic. when i see all fed employees driving a vehicle that gets 34 mpg and are paying for the use of that vehicle, i'll be the first to reconsider. has anyone else ever looked at the car plates on an interstate and noticed that the vehicle passing them at 10+ miles over the speed limit gas gov plates? i m sure i will get the same negative feedback as last time, oh well. a fed government agency that cannot be flexible in times of crisis (such as Sandy or issues in california) needs to be reined in. these people work for us folks....
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,248 Points:1,825,810 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:09:52 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse ban E15
Cashless Champion Author Akron Posts:3,515 Points:734,080 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:06:33 PM Ignore Cashless Report Abuse Get rid of this crap.
Godozo All-Star Author Gary Posts:666 Points:557,715 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:01:43 PM Ignore Godozo Report Abuse So, now we've gone from being able to make slightly over 90% of the gasoline we burn to somewhere closer to 85% of the gasoline we burn. And with Shell asking to export its sweet crude to Canada, it looks like we're going to be stuck with this stuff. (And just so you know, I'm against the stuff. Where corn is being grown for car fuel, we should be growing veggies and fruits so that everyone can eat well. As it is, we eat too much junk "food" and not nearly enough real food.) [Edited by: Godozo at 12/3/2012 11:04:07 PM EST]
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,800 Points:818,335 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:00:00 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse More stupidity from the NoBama administration...
usnerd Veteran Author Dayton Posts:317 Points:227,805 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 10:59:20 PM Ignore usnerd Report Abuse Wow, going green is a lot harder than it looks.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,528 Points:3,078,950 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 10:58:04 PM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse Obama and his EPA will throw us under the bus in order to advance their Green agenda. After all, the Omnipotent One knows better than you and I what is good for us. And he'll get it, too.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,620 Points:3,494,705 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 10:57:52 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The EPA should be scaled back and all their regulations (since Clinton) should be reviewed and weighted against economic concerns. The EPA is a large part of the cause of the stagnant US economy. The requirement for ethanol in gasoline should be completely removed.